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- Date: Sun, 23 Oct 94 22:39:21 PDT
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- Subject: Info-Hams Digest V94 #1150
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-
-
- Info-Hams Digest Sun, 23 Oct 94 Volume 94 : Issue 1150
-
- Today's Topics:
- ### About 2nd hand rigs, user manuals & copyright laws...
- Any hams using IRC chat??
- Check out Outside Mag..
- Code Programs/Sound Blasters
- HOW TO LEARN CW???
- IPS Daily Report - 23 October 94
- Keyer polarity for 520?
- MFJ-1214PC for sale
- Miniprop Plus 2.0 question:
- NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins (2 msgs)
- Passed my Tech today! Now the wait...
- Real Hams
- vcr plus
-
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- herein consists of personal comments and does not represent the official
- policies or positions of any party. Your mileage may vary. So there.
- ----------------------------------------------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Oct 1994 22:22:23 GMT
- From: s2202629@np.ac.sg (Teh Aik Wen)
- Subject: ### About 2nd hand rigs, user manuals & copyright laws...
-
- I've been wondering about the following, since I'll be purchasing a 2nd hand
- rig soon.
-
- Most of the time, when you purchase a 2nd had rig, it would probably come
- with the user manual. What if it doesn't, do you have the 'right' as the
- owner of the equiptment to make a photocopy (xerox?) of it, and use the
- copy? Or will copyright laws kick you for that?
-
- Or do I have to do something, like, write to the manufacturer, and purchase
- a new manual for him, or if he doesn't have anymore in print (perhaps a very
- old rig) to obtain 'written permission' to make a copy of it?
-
- I figured that 'if I owned a manual, I can copy the manual for my own use'
- don't really stands, because, what if - Someone purchased a new rig with a
- manual, copied the whole thing, and sold the original manual off to someone
- else, and used the copy.
-
- I know this isn't _REALLY_ amateur radio related, and should perhaps be
- tossed into some legal-related usegroup, pardon me if it's really off topic.
-
- Rgds.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 18 Oct 1994 22:13:14 GMT
- From: s2202629@np.ac.sg (Teh Aik Wen)
- Subject: Any hams using IRC chat??
-
- I think ham on IRC would be cool. I've met one other ham on another
- chatline, and he was very helpful in answering most questions I had.
-
- Catch is that, I can't IRC (no client on this system - I've got a shell
- account), and I have no access to the compiler to compile my own (control
- freaks!). So, how else can I do IRC? Are there a) precompiled binaries, or
- b) telnet-to-IRC servers that won't bog me down with too much lag.
-
- Would appericiate talking to other hams...
-
- Rgds!
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 18:51:06 EDT
- From: <JBAACK31@MAINE.MAINE.EDU>
- Subject: Check out Outside Mag..
-
- There is a nice 2 page story about some Ham's working rare DX in this months is
- sue of OUTSIDE mag. Real nice story, good pictures as well.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 24 Oct 1994 01:34:31 GMT
- From: davesparks@delphi.com (Dave Sparks)
- Subject: Code Programs/Sound Blasters
-
- Mike, KC5GRW wrote:
-
- > I've e-mailed Tim with my comments already about SB support in SM, but I
- > thought I'd say something here. I tried getting SM 4.1 to work with my SB
- > and did not have any luck. Selected the SB option in the set-up, but it
- > still directed sound to the PC speaker, yechh. Didn't look into it very
- > far, as I had also just DL'd the current version of Morse Academy and it
- > works great with the SB. Besides, I think I like MA's presentation and
- > bit better than SM's.
-
- I posted a similar question about a Morse program that was SB compatible a
- few months ago. Then, I happened to read the instruction manual that came
- with my sound card (a SB clone) and discovered what a certain unused wire
- that came with the card was for. If you disconnect the computer's internal
- speaker and run this jumper from the speaker connection on the motherboard
- to the sound card, *ALL* sound sent to the internal speaker will be routed
- through the sound card.
-
- I had two reasons for wanting this: 1.) My internal speaker wasn't loud
- enough to hear; and 2.) I wanted to be able to listen through headphones.
-
- If this is your reason for wanting to use the SB, it's worth a try. It
- certainly lends credibility to the "RTFM" acronym, too. :) 73 de...
-
- /--------------+----------------------------------------\
- | | Internet: davesparks@delphi.com |
- | Dave Sparks | Fidonet: Dave Sparks @ 1:207/212 |
- | | BBS: (909) 353-9821 - 14.4K |
- | KD6PDZ | Packet: KD6PDZ@N0ARY.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NA |
- \--------------+----------------------------------------/
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 11:21:24 GMT
- From: gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us (Gary Coffman)
- Subject: HOW TO LEARN CW???
-
- In article <38cbo6$5v4@nspace.ucsb.edu> probert@nspace.ucsb.edu (Dave Probert) writes:
- >In rec.radio.amateur.misc Bob Stanton writes:
- >
- >> What is the best way to do it? I want the HF privileges. I am
- >>willing to work for them. I just hit a wall every time I try to force
- >>myself to do something I hate. I know that some who read this will just
- >>flame me. I have faith that some will have good advice and will be
- >>willing to share it with me.
-
- >I find it takes a lot of concentration. *Your* biggest short-coming
- >is getting a positive attitude, as you admit.
-
- Yeah. Approach Code not as something you *have* to do because of a
- government mandate that's arcane and out of date, but as something
- you *want* to do because you want to use Code. That changes learning
- it from drudgery to fun.
-
- >There is a barrier around 10WPM where you have to start getting
- >your ears connected to your hand rather than translating with
- >your brain. Once you cross that threshold, then 13 isn't too hard.
-
- That's true too. The best way to avoid this hump is to start out
- going directly from ear to hand by operant conditioning. Code
- shouldn't be something you have to think about. It should be
- something you just *do*, like touch typing. Remember when you
- were learning to type how they covered the keycaps so your fingers
- just had to *know* the right keys rather than letting you look
- and reason out which key to hit? Well Code has to be done the
- same way. It has to be an automatic reflex response to the
- aural stimulus. You shouldn't consciously think about it at
- all. Sadly, the only conditioning that works is mindless drill,
- drill, drill. You have to keep reminding yourself, "Don't think,
- don't think, don't think." That's easier for some than for others.
-
- >Personally I think that the code is worth learning.
- >I think the DX contacts are more interesting, and I think the barrier
- >it raises will keep ham radio from being ruined like CB was -- while
- >at the same time being a more egalitarian hurtle than theory (with
- >no study I came within 1 question of passing the Green Monster my
- >first try -- based solely on my 15 yr old undergraduate studies).
- >Anybody can learn the code, just like learning to type or play the piano
- >(adequately). It just takes practice and the conviction that you can
- >do it.
-
- Ob flame. I disagree with everthing you say here except the first
- sentence. I don't think Morse is a lid filter, and I don't think
- it's more egalitarian than theory. Anyone with the intellectual
- capacity to be an amateur can learn the theory, though depending
- on their previous educational background, they may have to do a
- bit more or less studying of the prerequisites. OTOH Code requires
- an innate neuro-muscular coordination that some people possess,
- and others do not. Put another way, Code responds to inborn talent
- much more than anything else an amateur may wish to do.
-
- Those with good senses of rhythm and pitch discrimination have a
- major advantage over those who do not. No amount of effort can
- overcome that handicap. Like a tone deaf wannabe musician, no
- matter how much they practice, they will never be a concert pianist,
- or a rock drummer, or in some (somewhat rare) cases even a traditional
- musician at all. But they can still "make music" using a computer
- driven synthesizer. They may even understand enough music theory
- to make very good music with their rhythm enhancing tool. Or perhaps
- they are very good at reciting spoken poetry instead of singing it
- as a lyric. It's improper to bar them from the stage simply because
- their performance choices are different.
-
- Gary
- --
- Gary Coffman KE4ZV | You make it, | gatech!wa4mei!ke4zv!gary
- Destructive Testing Systems | we break it. | emory!kd4nc!ke4zv!gary
- 534 Shannon Way | Guaranteed! | gary@ke4zv.atl.ga.us
- Lawrenceville, GA 30244 | |
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 23 Oct 1994 23:12:44 GMT
- From: rwc@flare.syd.ips.oz.au (Regional Warning Centre)
- Subject: IPS Daily Report - 23 October 94
-
- SUBJ: IPS DAILY SOLAR AND GEOPHYSICAL REPORT
- ISSUED AT 23/2330Z OCTOBER 1994 BY IPS RADIO AND SPACE SERVICES
- FROM THE REGIONAL WARNING CENTRE (RWC), SYDNEY.
- SUMMARY FOR 23 OCTOBER AND FORECAST FOR 24 OCTOBER - 26 OCTOBER
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 1A. SOLAR SUMMARY
- Activity: low
-
- Flares: none.
-
- Observed 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number : 84/26
-
- GOES satellite data for 22 Oct
- Daily Proton Fluence >1 MeV: 8.3E+06
- Daily Proton Fluence >10 MeV: 7.7E+04
- Daily Electron Fluence >2 MeV: 2.3E+06 (normal)
- X-ray background: B1.2
- Fluence (flux accumulation over 24hrs)/ cm2-ster-day.
-
- 1B. SOLAR FORECAST
- 24 Oct 25 Oct 26 Oct
- Activity Low Very low Very low
- Fadeouts None expected None expected None expected
-
- Forecast 10.7 cm flux/Equivalent Sunspot Number for 24 Oct: 82/23
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 2A. MAGNETIC SUMMARY
- Geomagnetic field at Learmonth: active to minor storm
-
- Estimated Indices : A K Observed A Index 22 Oct
- Learmonth 33 5445 5443
- Fredericksburg 40 18
- Planetary 50 16
-
- Observed Kp for 22 Oct: 1114 4335
- 2B. MAGNETIC FORECAST
- DATE Ap CONDITIONS
- 24 Oct 16 Active
- 25 Oct 12 Unsettled
- 26 Oct 10 Unsettled
- COMMENT: IPS Geomagnetic Warning 7 was issued on 22 October and is
- current for interval 22-24 October. Geomagnetic activity level
- expected to decline today.
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 3A. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION SUMMARY
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 23 Oct normal fair-normal poor-fair
- PCA Event : None.
-
- 3B. GLOBAL HF PROPAGATION FORECAST
- LATITUDE BAND
- DATE LOW MIDDLE HIGH
- 24 Oct normal fair poor
- 25 Oct normal normal fair
- 26 Oct normal normal fair
-
- -----------------------------------------------------------
- 4A. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC SUMMARY
- Observed
- DATE T-index MUFs at Sydney
- 23 Oct 15 near predicted monthly values
-
- Predicted Monthly T-index for October: 20
-
- 4B. AUSTRALIAN REGION IONOSPHERIC FORECAST
- DATE T-index MUFs
- 24 Oct 20 Near predicted monthly values
- 25 Oct 20 Near predicted monthly values
- 26 Oct 20 Near predicted monthly values
- COMMENT: IPS HF Communications Warning 6 was issued on 22 October and
- is current for interval 22-24 October. Degraded HF conditions on
- 23rd due to flare induced geomagnetic activity.
-
- --
- IPS Regional Warning Centre, Sydney |IPS Radio and Space Services
- RWC Duty Forecaster tel: +61 2 4148329 |PO Box 5606
- Recorded Message tel: +61 2 4148330 |West Chatswood NSW 2057
- email: rwc@ips.oz.au fax: +61 2 4148331 |AUSTRALIA
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Oct 1994 18:46:02 -0400
- From: jimn0oct@aol.com (JimN0OCT)
- Subject: Keyer polarity for 520?
-
- In article <9410232016.AA15024@flowserver.stem.com>,
- dave@flowserver.stem.com (David Adams) writes:
-
- to know about the polarity of a 520.
-
- Hmmmmmmmmmmmm, if you've got a keyer, try it on "neg" or "grid" first. If
- it works, end there. If it sends a continuous tone, try the other. I
- believe the first suggestion should work best.
-
- 73 and GL, Jim N0OCT
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 19 Oct 94 12:42:29 +0800
- From: asirene@v9001.ntu.ac.sg
- Subject: MFJ-1214PC for sale
-
- Have MFJ-1214PC for sale. Hardly used. Comes with software.
-
- Full Color FAX
-
- Use your computer and tranceiver to receive, display and
- transmit brilliant full color news photos and incredible WeFAX
- weather maps with all 16 gray levels. Also receive/transmit
- RTTY, ASCII and CW.
-
- Animate weather maps. Display 10 global picture simultaneously.
- Zoom any part of picture or map. Manager lists over 900 FAX
- statios. Automatic picture capture and save.
-
- Has been used only to receive so far. Works well. MFJ sells
- for $150. Asking $110 but negotiable.
-
- 73,
- Daniel
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Oct 1994 14:31:03 -0000
- From: sandoz@ismennt.is (Einar Sverrir Sandoz)
- Subject: Miniprop Plus 2.0 question:
-
- Does someone know the minimum hardware requirements (video) for this
- program, before I order it ?
- Einar.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Oct 1994 23:38:25 GMT
- From: wes@quasar.eng.wayne.edu (Wes Harrell)
- Subject: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
- Bob Wilkins n6fri (rwilkins@ccnet.com) wrote:
- : This was found floating on the Amateur Packet BBS system. What do you think?
-
- I think this guy is a weenie with nothing better to do with his life. He
- should tear up his license and get the hell off the air if he doesn't
- like it. You have to remember, this is HIS interpretation of the
- rules. In the bbssig mailing list they posted the copies of the letters
- from the FCC and you'll see clearly that most of what this guy says is
- bent out of shape into something that he wants. Funny that anyone that
- reads the letters from the FCC and also Part 97 will see it differently.
-
- I'm an experimenter and have been licensed for over 15 1/2 years now.
- I've seen all kinds of people come in and think they own this hobby and
- they have nothing better to do with their lives but to look for
- something illegal. If you are looking all the time you'll find something
- whether it's legal or not. Your mind becomes distorted when you spend
- all day looking for errors and trying to distort the rules to make it
- what you are trying to see. The FCC is not some evil government group
- trying to get rid of ham radio. I've talked to the same person that he
- has talked to before on the phone and the FCC is very flexible with the
- rules and ≤{willing to cooperate with us to make them work. If we feel
- that a rule needs to exist or a clarification of a rule, submit it or
- talk to them about it. I dont' go around looking for what he does
- because I grew out of that phase years ago, instead I'm more interested
- in doing the new and more advanced technology (the stuff that scares the
- hell out of people like this guy) and if it's not legal or there is a
- doubt, then I'll try to change it or get a waiver (STA).
-
- On 'amateur radio related' give me a break. If everything in this
- hobby had to be ham radio related then who would want to be in this
- hobby. I'd set up shop in the CB band instead along with most other
- hams. This is communications plain and simple, whether it's CW, SSB,
- digital modes, ATV, etc... We experiment. I run TCP/IP and if you
- look at what it does adn it's legal for ham radio, I say it ham radio
- related. Anything I send through is ham radio related and I can easily
- bend or distort any rule to prove that too if challenged just like this
- person is trying to do to prove it is illegal.
-
- Most people like this end up just getting treated badly for trying to
- wreck the hobby and put more restrictions on it and it ends up just
- hurting them. I've seen this same thing over and over again and it
- never seems to stop. Maybe a year or two from now he'll probably end
- up just changing his callsign and try to start over like other people I
- know personally that were just like him.
-
- Ron N8FOW ron@chaos.eng.wayne.edu
-
- (don't do an autoreply to me, this is my friends account due to
- system maintenance on my normal machine. I just kill flame messages
- anyways to me, so don't waste your time with those, they won't get read)
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Sun, 23 Oct 94 09:19:02 EDT
- From: rapp@lmr.mv.com (Larry Rappaport)
- Subject: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
-
- kevin.jessup@mail.mei.com (Kevin Jessup) writes:
-
- > In article <389n39$5at@ccnet.ccnet.com> rwilkins@ccnet.com (Bob Wilkins n6fr
- >
- > K7WWA (NOT Bob Wilkins, above) writes...
- >
- > >From : K7WWA@K7WWA.#NOCAL.CA.USA.NOAM
- > >To : INFO@ALLUS
- >
- > ...stuff deleted...
- >
- > > we requested FCC clarification regarding
- > >the definition of "One-Way Bulletins" and "Bulletin Message Content"
- > >as it specifically applied to Amateur Packet Radio. The position of
- > >the FCC is as follows:
- >
- > >3. The Information sent MUST BE RELATED TO, AND OF INTEREST TO
- > >AMATEUR RADIO OPERATORS ONLY!
- > >
- > >4. Any Packet Bulletin which contains material which relates to
- > >anything not directly related to amateur radio, or of interest to
- > >amateur radio operators only, is considered to be "Broadcasting."
- > >This includes material on Cars, Guns, Politics, Food, Jokes,
- > >Current Events, etc. etc. etc.
- > >
- > >In the above listing the emphasis was supplied by the FCC in the
- > >letter I have on file.
- >
- > >73, keep up the good work! Fred Sober, AB6GQ
- >
- >
- > Now I THINK it was Bob (N6FRI), who replied with this...
- >
- > >>*** Yes, Fred, keep up the good work. I'm glad that you are doing all
- > >>*** that you can to make Amateur radio packet boring.
- >
- >
- > A BIG QSL on the "boring" aspect, OM!
- >
- > My OPINION is that the message "content" is just as important (if not
- > more so) as the method by which the data is transferred. I LOVE the
- > freedom of the Internet.
- >
- > I have enough of a problem trying to keep my interest in advancing the
- > amateur radio sota (via cooperative investment in packet infrastructure,
- > TCPIP/NOS, SS, etc) alive here in Wisconsin what with the total lack of
- > interest by the vast majority of the AX.25 1200 baud beacon fanatics
- > around here. Most just don't care about cooperative INVESTMENT (yes,
- > this takes $$$) in a high-speed backbone.
- >
- > Now lets make that investment even LESS attractive by LIMITING the type
- > of traffic to that typical, BORING amateur blather about the weather
- > and your current health problems. I sware the FCC WANTS us
- > to die! They'll then have even more spectrum to auction off.
- >
- > There is a difference between BROADCASTING and POSTING AN ARTICLE
- > so as to encourage intelligent discussion. While SOME packet
- > posts are in poor taste (and approach broadcasting), many result
- > in interesting discussion threads (and yes, a few flame wars).
- >
- > BIG NEWS: people have different opinions on almost every topic.
- > One of the advantages of living in a "free" country is the exchange
- > of those ideas in an open manor.
- >
- > Commercial telecomm looks better and better every day. Then again,
- > I'm sure we'll see Internet regulated and censored soon enough.
- >
- > Maybe those in rec.radio,pirate are right! ;-))
-
- Bear in mind that what is being discussed are one-way bulletins. In
- legitimate discussion, the FCC has very little power to regulate anything. I
- think if their power were ever challenged in that regard, that under the
- first amendment, it might becomes very difficult to censor anything... :)
-
- That said, IANAL, so maybe I'm full of crap. :)
-
- Larry W1HJF
- --
-
- Larry
- -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
- L. M. Rappaport & Associates, Inc. rapp@lmr.mv.com voice +1 603 237 8400
- Colebrook, NH 03576-0158 CIS 72427,2567 fax +1 603 237 8430
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Oct 1994 11:43:32 GMT
- From: ad779@detroit.freenet.org (John Hughes)
- Subject: Passed my Tech today! Now the wait...
-
- Congratulations: I just received my call --KE4RRG-- on 9-22 after 5 weeks/5 day
- That is took exam 9-12...eff date 10-14...received 10-22. This is better than
- the 8-10 weeks or more i've been reading about...But have seen a couple of other
- 5-6 week stories so things at FCC apparently are getting faster...or it's just a
- good time of year to do business with them. Anyway, take care...& good luck on
- the upgrades. I'm trying to do the same thing, (but with a little longer
- timeframe).
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 00:16:10 GMT
- From: jeffrey@kahuna.tmc.edu (Jeffrey Herman)
- Subject: Real Hams
-
- pat.wilson@pplace.com (Pat Wilson) writes:
-
- >->
- >-> THE AMATEUR'S CODE
-
- >Was written by the ARRL, not for anyone else, and certainly not the
- >end of the story. Since only around 30% of those licensed real hams
- >belong to that group. You can organize a group and make up all kinds of
- >crap.
-
- Nope. The Code was written by an amateur that was probably a
- member of the ARRL.
-
- >-> ONE:
- >
- >-> support to his fellow radio amateurs, his local club and the American
- >-> Radio Relay League, throught which Amateur Radio is represented.
- >
- >This should tell you the whole story. Talk about having a pointed
- >interest. What makes you think, old timer, that you even have to belong
- >to the ARRL or a Club to be a real ham. Again, my friend, read the real
- >rules in part 97. Then get back to me.
-
- Rather, you should study the history of amateur radio; without
- the ARRL lobbying for us over the last 70 or so years we wouldn't
- exist today. Surely if you have any interest in this hobby you
- wouldn't mind reading a bit about our history, no?
-
- > AND btw, Amateur
- >Radio is NOT A HOBBY. Check again and you will note, that NOWHERE does
- >it say the Hobby of Amateur Radio, but the SERVICE of Amateur Radio.
-
- From the Oxford English Dictionary:
-
- HOBBY 4. A favourite occupation or topic pursued for amusement; an
- individual persuit to which a person is unduly devoted. 1816.
-
- SERVICE 5. A branch of public employment, or a body of public
- servants, concerned with some particular work or the supply
- of some particular need. 1685.
-
- >Better check before you jump too quickly.
-
- Hey, that's what I was going to say! Anyway, in our daily yaking
- on the air most of us feel we're pursuing a hobby; not until
- disaster strikes do we consider our hobby a service, as per
- Part 97's definition.
-
- .73W,
- Jeff NH6IL
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 01:10:55 GMT
- From: az721@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Gilles Monette)
- Subject: vcr plus
-
- I am looking for information on the vcr plus
- gadget that allow you to program tv shows by
- just entering the given numbers in the tv guide.
- What I am looking for is the formula to generate
- these numbers. How can I generate them if they are not
- in the tv guide. Does anyone have that information.
-
- Thanks
-
- Gilles, Ve2gsm
- --
- Gilles Monette
- az721@freenet.carleton.ca
- Have a good day...
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Oct 1994 15:31:15 -0700
- From: kchen@apple.com (Kok Chen)
-
- References<3839nf$1sou@yuma.ACNS.ColoState.EDU> <phb.782579819@melpar>, <3889a1$ic7@mrnews.mro.dec.com>
- Subject: Re: ARRL to change "Silent Keys" label in QST?
-
- hutzley@ranger.enet.dec.com (Steve Hutzley) writes:
-
-
- >> Maybe "Final QRT" would be a suitable choice.
- >>
-
- > I Actually think that would be a good title for ALL
- > CLASSES of operators. But then on the other hand, the PTT
- > button on a mike is sometimes refered to as 'A KEY!'
-
-
- Some of us RTTY types also use SK at the end of a QSO.
-
- But, I guess we do have keys :-) :-). As in "keyboards." Or is
- that key-baud? Perhaps it is key-bored?
-
- 73
-
- Kok "RYRYRY" Chen, AA6TY kchen@apple.com
- Apple Computer, Inc.
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: 23 Oct 1994 12:59:27 GMT
- From: keith@fc.hp.com (John Keith)
-
- References<37vo50$fdo@tadpole.fc.hp.com> <37vosa$fk5@tadpole.fc.hp.com>, <3869ei$n3l@nntpd.lkg.dec.com>
- Subject: Re: Need info from foreing callbook
-
- John Keith (keith@fc.hp.com) wrote:
- : Could some one with a current foreign callbook please confirm the following:
- :
- : ZS3KC C.B. "Jack" Anderson Box 1232 Swakopmund 9180 Namibia
- :
- : I think his call is now V51KC.
-
- I've had no responses with info on this request. Surely someone out there has
- a foreign callbook and can check this for me.
-
- As an alternate question, is there such a thing as a callsign server that
- has foreign calls?
-
- John Keith
-
- ------------------------------
-
- Date: Mon, 24 Oct 1994 01:10:30 GMT
- From: wa2ise@netcom.com (Robert Casey)
-
- References<389n39$5at@ccnet.ccnet.com> <Cy3Buq.9s8@news.Hawaii.Edu>, <Cy4F7t.B1u@utnetw.utoledo.edu>
- Subject: Re: NoCal OO goes after Packet BULLetins
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- On the SSB phone bands, or 2M FM repeaters, you can hear a lot of stuff
- not related to ham radio (weather, health problems, cars, name it).
- No "business" or "commercial" traffic of course. So, if someone posts
- a food article, image files, or a debate on something, is that significantly
- different than the voice stuff? One has phone nets,where each ham in it
- is talking to multiple reciever hams. On packet, I've recieved many
- thank you's from hams after posting several "comet hits Jupiter" image
- files. That's a kind of 2 way. I don't think the FCC is that worried
- about it. We're not charging money for packet posts, it's just a big
- exchange of various kinds of non-commercial information.
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